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[cybormoron]

:help!: just how easy is it? watch these!!! http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/bravo!.gif
http://www.linux.com...06/06/23/133239

[Harry The Cat]

Hello Cybor....
Well you talked me into it. I'm in the process of downloading the ISO for Linux
(about 50% done). I guess I can use Nero to burn the disk.
Got a HP513g with a 60GB in it. It runs at 1.8 on the cpu. The disk has nothing but a copy of winxp Home on it. Should I leave it or start with a clean HD?

[Harry The Cat]

No luck with the first burn using their burner. Somehow ended up with 714MB, which, of course, will not fit on a standard 700MB disk.
Downloading again now.....50% through.

[cybormoron]

good deal harry. if all works well i think you will like it. i assume you're downloading the correct version? also if you're not sure how to burn an iso with nero i found this;
http://iso.snoekonline.com/iso.htm
i've not used nero so all i can offer is a link. i made 4 coasters out of good cd's before i figured out how to burn them.

definitely leave windows alone. you'll be running from the cd rom. it isn't necessary to do anything to your hard drive. it wouldn't hurt to have a backup of your system just in case. it may respond a little slow because it has to fetch data from the cd. there are many distros and the idea is to experiment with them to see which one runs best on your hardware. so try a few more before you decide to install. when you decide to install it's possible to just resize the windows partition and make room for linux as a dual boot.

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[cybormoron]

looks like we cross posted. it should fit. what version did you get? you shouldn't have to download again. is the problem with nero or do you think the file was to big?

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[Harry The Cat]

Still 714Mb. Tried to burn and got write errors at 97%. I'm outta here.......

[cybormoron]

ok then. nice try i guess. sorry it didn't work for you. this happens sometimes and most people just give up. i'd try different burning software if you're still interested.

why don't you try iso recorder as mentioned in the videos?
http://isorecorder.a...isorecorder.htm

or try one of these
http://iso.snoekonline.com/iso.htm

i know these will work and they're free
http://www.cdburnerxp.se/
http://www.deepburner.com/

[Larry(ne)]

....Here.........


Harry I use this for iso files Burn cdcc real fast and simple
That file was only 697 mb's

[dano2]

Here's another good burn engine by the author of the famous DVDDecrypter.

http://www.imgburn.com/

[dobhar]

Putting in my 2¢ here...I always use CDBurnerXP to burn my ISO images...Works great...

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[Harry The Cat]

Hello again. Going to get it, have no fear. I just go through a "Pxxxxd Off" mode before I settle down...yuk, yuk.

OK, heres what happens. Just at the end of the download (I'm using the middle one-"PC (Intel x86) desktop CD", another file jumps in and adds what must be the amount of size to bring it to 714MB. Only takes me about 25 min. to download, but that addition on the end goes so fast have a hard time identifying the name.
Here's what it looks like on my HD:

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[Harry The Cat]

Just downloaded it again. This time from "cs-utah.edu". Smame size file...714GB.
This time the add-on file was "wkp1qmbr" which looks like a Master Boot Record.
At a catch 22 at this point. File to big for a CD disk and Nero doesn't like my type of disk (R-/RW).
Going to try the other burners mentioned above.

[cybormoron]

this is very strange harry. i see why folks get frustrated. i just downloaded it and burned it again and it is 697.8 mb. i don't know what could be causing this. i'm gonna ask this on the ubuntu forums. i would hold off on trying to download and burn this any further till i get an answer. sorry about this. i guess it's not so easy afterall. i've had frustrating moments but i kept trying to solve the probs. i wouldn't blame you if you gave up. but a true hacker never gives up, loooooool.

if you have any patience left maybe try another distro. this is actually normal to have to try something else.
http://www.knoppix.com/

get this one; File: KNOPPIX_V5.0.1CD-2006-06-01-EN.iso
ftp://ftp.cise.ufl.e...irrors/knoppix/



none of the iso's i have are over 700mbs

[Harry The Cat]

The GODS of LINUX are againt me today. Just downloaded from the KNOPPIX site you just gave me. Here's the results:
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[Harry The Cat]

I think I have a download setting AFU. Going to try the KNOPPIX download on Dorret's machine. A little slower, but it will be interesting to see the results.
Stay tuned to the stomach churning story...."As The Linux Turns.."!!!

[Harry The Cat]

Same size on Dorret's machine.....712MB

[Harry The Cat]

FOUND THE ANSWER!!!
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Each download is front-ended with it's own disk burning tool. That was the diff in size.
Setting it up on the HP513 now.....

[dano2]

I downloaded that Knoppix u linked and got the 712mb file also. Why is there a double file in the iso?






I was able to burn it with Nero without any errors. Will have to see if it works.

[cybormoron]

good job harry. where is that burning tool coming from? are you trying to install or run it live? i recommend running it live for awhile to see if all your hardware works and if you like it or not. or maybe you might want to try another distro. it really isn't necessary to install right away. better to learn your way around a little bit. it is possible to install it without hurting windows but if you decide you don't want it you will have wipe everything and reinstall windows. you do have your windows cd, correct?


dano...i'm not sure what's going there. maybe different languages, installation script. i'm running it now and i see double entries in the menus. never saw that before. guess i'll have to ask on knoppix forum.

anyways if you guys have it burned just reboot. let me know if there's any probs so i can scratch my head along with you, looooooooool. one thing about these free linux distros is that they don't come with propietary drivers and plugins, such as flash player for your browser. it can be installed but it's not worth it for a live cd session. i've just installed alot of extensions for firefox and there's a way to save all your settings so you don't lose them after you reboot. i'm working it now.

glad you went with knoppix. i think it's better than ubuntu. i have no clue why ubuntu is so popular. i don't care for it at all. maybe i'm missing something, looooooool.

http://www.knoppix.net/
http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Main_Page
http://www.knoppix.net/forum/

read this
http://www.pjls16812.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/...ppix/index.html

excerpts from the book "hacking knoppix"
http://www.extremetech.com/search_results/...section=&site=4

ps) leave the disc in the cdrom drive while you're using and log out/shutdown when done.

[Berton]

I downloaded the same file as Dano2 and Nero created a CD from the .iso image just fine, popped it back into the drive and autorun brought up the screen with this on it:

System Requirements

Intel-compatible CPU (i486 or better),
32 MB of ram for text mode, and at least 82 MB for graphic mode with KDE. (To run various Office applications, at least 128 MB is recommended),
a bootable CD-ROM/DVD drive (IDE/ATAPI, Firewire, USB or SCSI),
a standard SVGA-compatible graphics card,
and a standard serial or PS/2 mouse, or IMPS/2-compatible USB Mouse.

I opened the .iso file in IsoBuster and didn't see anything amiss in it, no doubled entries, etc.