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[spider]

Hi guys, new here and just want to know your thoughts about Microsoft dumping Vista

here the link but it doesn't seem to mention about dumping Vista or I'm really dence http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/butt_face.gif

http://www.switched.com/2009/01/08/is-micr...7693x1201098409

Let me know what you think... I did talk to one of Microsoft rep but, they said there not Dumping Vista.

"there only reps and they'll tell you the sky is pink, just like they told me in the past you can use system restore to remove a virus"

The reason I'm asking i s because I'm going for my MCTS exam 70-620 "Configuring Windows Vista Client and I don't want to read or pay for the exam for nothing.


Thanks again!
spider

[Berton]

I don't think Microsoft is "dumping" Vista. Keep in mind that Microsoft has planned a cycle of 18 months between new versions of their Operating Systems and from Vista to Windows 7 pretty much goes a bit beyond that just as WinXP went just over 2 years after Win2000. It's the time span between WinXP and Vista that "broke the mold".

[Broni]

Besides, there is really not that huge difference between Vista, and 7 (which I've been testing for more than a month), so whatever you learn about Vista will apply pretty much in 7.

[spider]

Broni, on Jan 24 2009, 12:44 AM, said:

Besides, there is really not that huge difference between Vista, and 7 (which I've been testing for more than a month), so whatever you learn about Vista will apply pretty much in 7.

I didn't think so besides i didn't see it mention in the first place... there was only a title saying "IS MICROSOFT DUMPING VISTA" A friend of mine told me this and sent me the link.

Thanks guys, at least I know I won't be wasting my money on this exam.

[DAVID E]

I don't think Vista is going to be around long myself. The Corporate world just hasn't accepted it like they have XP Pro. Dell is even offering certain systems with your choice of XP or Vista, obviously having listened to complaints about people still wanting some form of XP on their new system. I don't have it and if I wanted another PC, I wouldn't want Vista on it.

[spider]

DAVID E, on Jan 24 2009, 10:59 PM, said:

I don't think Vista is going to be around long myself. The Corporate world just hasn't accepted it like they have XP Pro. Dell is even offering certain systems with your choice of XP or Vista, obviously having listened to complaints about people still wanting some form of XP on their new system. I don't have it and if I wanted another PC, I wouldn't want Vista on it.

When Xp came out there where complaints about that OS as well, people aren't use to change!


The more visual 3D effects and animation wall paper the more memory and processor your going to need.

what made you dislike Vista anyway and what specs do you have on your PC.

I don't have any issues with my Vista and it runs fast with no problem and if you buy a cheap computer with Vista on it then you are going to have problems. keep away from cheap specs. http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif

[Broni]

All very good points, spider :)

[spider]

Broni, on Jan 25 2009, 02:13 PM, said:

All very good points, spider :)

Thankyou My Master have a beer on me

spider http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/smile.gif

[bootneck02]

http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/sad.gif On the coorperate side I think many organizations will be hanging on to XP even if Microsoft do not support it because of the down turn, even well into 2010/11. The organization I work for were still running windows 95 up to four years ago and much of their hardware had come out of the ark and we still have a lot of CRT screens about. http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif And our turnover is a billion and a half £ pa.

[DAVID E]

spider, on Jan 25 2009, 01:52 PM, said:

When Xp came out there where complaints about that OS as well, people aren't use to change!
The more visual 3D effects and animation wall paper the more memory and processor your going to need.

what made you dislike Vista anyway and what specs do you have on your PC.

I don't have any issues with my Vista and it runs fast with no problem and if you buy a cheap computer with Vista on it then you are going to have problems. keep away from cheap specs. http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/thumbsup.gif

The corporate world if for no other reason, isn't going over to Vista if for no other reason due to cost according to one of the IT techs at work. I personally don't like change. If I have my lazy boy in the corner I don't want it moved but, I'm an ol' dinosaur that takes ages to accept change. I'm use to XP and don't need anymore problems than what I've encountered with that OS. At least I know where most things are with it. As I said, I still don't think it'll be around long...must be the Nostradamus in me perhaps.

What specs do I have? What do you want to know and why? I wouldn't buy a cheap computer whether it had XP, Vista or some other OS. As for specs...

Dimension 4550
XP Home with SP3
320G WD HDD w/270G free space(master)
80G WD(slave)
2G RAM, 533 Bus Clock
2.4 Ghz processor Intel Pentium 4
BIOS ver A08

[bootneck02]

DAVID E, on Jan 31 2009, 09:33 PM, said:

The corporate world if for no other reason, isn't going over to Vista if for no other reason due to cost according to one of the IT techs at work. I personally don't like change. If I have my lazy boy in the corner I don't want it moved but, I'm an ol' dinosaur that takes ages to accept change. I'm use to XP and don't need anymore problems than what I've encountered with that OS. At least I know where most things are with it. As I said, I still don't think it'll be around long...must be the Nostradamus in me perhaps.

What specs do I have? What do you want to know and why? I wouldn't buy a cheap computer whether it had XP, Vista or some other OS. As for specs...

Dimension 4550
XP Home with SP3
320G WD HDD w/270G free space(master)
80G WD(slave)
2G RAM, 533 Bus Clock
2.4 Ghz processor Intel Pentium 4
BIOS ver A08

[bootneck02]

OOps did something wrong there http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/blush.gif Well DAVID E one good reason to change to Linux it costs nothing it dosent have the security problems that XP, Vista and I supect that Windows 7 will have with all the security updates, nor virus problems . When a new verson comes out to upgrade it costs nothing makes good sence to me. I think my Vista Ultimate cost me over £200 dont think I will invest in Windows 7 though, I have dualbooted Ubuntu and when I have got used to it and played with it I will take off Vista and XP off my PCs and just use Ubuntu.

The other wonderful about the Linux operating systems there are plenty of free software downloads as comprable to ones to the main stream Wndows compatable ones and you dont have to have all the security and registry tools that you do have for Windows http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/wallace.gif http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/yahoo.gif http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/clinton.gif

[DAVID E]

I guess my next move would be more toward JR's favorite...the Mac. I've looked at the imac for some while now and one of the things keeping me back is I don't know if it will handle some of my software requirements or not-specifically Nikon's Capture NX2 since I use it quite a bit and it's slow enough on Windows. Maybe a duo core processor with 4-6G of RAM would help with the 2.66Ghz processor.

[Berton]

DAVID E, if you do go for a Mac get the two-button with scroll mouse, makes the change from Windows a lot easier.

[frazzm737]

As mentioned elsewhere on the forum, I just got my new iMac. I have found it completely impossible to adapt to an Apple mouse. Any other mouse can be used with a Mac. I immediately attached my trusty Logitech mouse to my new machine. A small program called Steer Mouse makes it completely functional without Logitech software.

[JohnT]

I used to love new systems coming out, and messing with them, but that got old and now I just want and OS that works and has drivers that will work with associated hardware. I don't care about child like screens that eat memory with huge graphics. I want it stable and with no BSOD's as XP has been and let it work well with all media players, and multiple graphic programs. Other than that I don't care about the details. As the market is still 90% PC based Mac should lower their price to get the average person interested. I like the various operating systems but I don't like inflated hardware prices.

[DAVID E]

Berton, on Jan 31 2009, 07:51 PM, said:

DAVID E, if you do go for a Mac get the two-button with scroll mouse, makes the change from Windows a lot easier.

I'm still up in the air on this, Berton. I just want a system that will run smoother than I've experienced with XP and one that will not run so sloooow with my programs I use frequently. At t his stage I don't care if it's a mac or another PC. With PC's it seems every other full moon they're coming out with a new OS. Now we have XP Home and Pro, Vista, and now soon, Windows 7. If you get away from the imac, Mac prices are more than my first (or second) car.

[bootneck02]

Why not try Ubuntu dual boot it with your Windows and see if you can get used to it. I am trying it at the moment on another pc dual booted with xp. At the moment it seems a little strange but I am getting used to it, there is plenty of help here with rokytnji he is the top man with Ubuntu http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif

[dobhar]

As far as I'm concerned Vista is a good OS...is it a WinXP?...Nope but it's still a good OS. Does it have flaws...yep but all OS's have flaws...that's what patches are for. Heck, even the revered Win98 had an upgrade...they came out with Win98se. IMHO the only crappy OS that ever came out was Windows ME . I'm sure there are a few people out there saying what the heck are you talking about...ME was\is a great OS.

As Berton mentioned in his post...

Berton said:

I don't think Microsoft is "dumping" Vista. Keep in mind that Microsoft has planned a cycle of 18 months between new versions of their Operating Systems and from Vista to Windows 7 pretty much goes a bit beyond that just as WinXP went just over 2 years after Win2000. It's the time span between WinXP and Vista that "broke the mold".

And I totally agree with him.

David said:

With PC's it seems every other full moon they're coming out with a new OS. Now we have XP Home and Pro, Vista, and now soon, Windows 7

Hmmm...no offence David but yer wrong there...WinXP came out in Dec 2001...that would be 8 years ago. Vista only came out 2 years ago in Jan 2007 so as Berton mentioned the time between WinXP and Vista was a long 6 years...we should have seen Vista at least in 2003. If all goes well, according to the "quoted info below", we should see Windows 7 being released in 2012. AND Yes I will be buying Windows 7 upon it's release... http://www.smartestc...tyle_emoticons/default/smile.gif
http://www.microsoft...le/default.mspx
http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?LN...14&p1=11734
http://support.micro...p/lifeselectwin

WinVistaClub.com said:

January 26th, 2008. Contrary to all that is being said on the net, it clearly looks like Microsoft is NOT planning to release Windows 7 in 2009. Microsoft's official response, by an Email dated 26th January, 2008, to WinVistaClub states that Windows 7 is still in the planning stage and will take approximately 3 years to develop. The following is the extract of the mail:


Q. What is the expected timeline for the availability of Windows 7?

A. We are currently in the planning stages for Windows 7 and expect it will take approximately 3 years to develop. The specific release date will be determined once the company meets its quality bar for release.

Q. Has Windows 7 been released to manufacturing?

A. We’re continuing to work with our partners on the development of Windows 7, and are not sharing any additional information at this time.

Q. Is the schedule for Windows 7 being moved up due to poor Windows Vista sales?

A. We’re not sharing additional information on Windows 7 at this time. However, we’re confident that many organizations are recognizing the value in Windows Vista. Of note, sales of Windows Vista licenses have now passed 100 million. In addition, Windows Vista is being adopted by businesses at a rate that is similar to past releases. In the business market there are early, mainstream and late adopters, with the majority of businesses falling into the category of mainstream. We’re seeing positive indicators that we’re already starting to move from the early adoption phase into the mainstream, and that more and more businesses are beginning their planning and deployment of Windows Vista.

While the answers to the latter 2 questions may have been on predictable lines, what is important to note that Microsoft TODAY maintains that Windows 7 is STILL in the planning stages and it will take approximately 3 (more) years to develop.

[dobhar]

bootneck2 said:

I have dualbooted Ubuntu and when I have got used to it and played with it I will take off Vista and XP off my PCs and just use Ubuntu.

Why remove Vista and XP??? The nice think about dual boot is that you don't have to remove an OS...you can have the best of both at your finger tips. As much as I love playing with Linux, I'll never get rid of Windows ever. Why bother...Having a partition with WinXP on it does no harm.

I've mentioned the following before and I believe it's worth posting again. I'm running the following on my Laptop's\PC's as each PC has it's role...
- 1 Dell XPS Laptop running Vista Ultimate
- 1 Dell Latitude D620 Laptop running WinXP SP3
- 1 Dell Latitude D610 Laptop running Ubuntu 8.10
- 1 Dell Inspiron Laptop (P4) running WinXP SP2
- 1 Dell Optiplex 280 (P4) PC running WinXP SP3
- 1 Home Built (P4) PC running WinXP SP3 \Linux Ubuntu 8.10 (Dual-Boot). I will soon be triple-booting as I have a free partition and plan to load another version of Linux besides Ubuntu(PC has 3 partitions...WinXP SP3 on one, Ubuntu 8.10 on one, and one spare for another OS)
- 1 Dell Optiplex 270 (P4) PC running WinXP SP3 (Wife's PC)