Password problem
Started By DaffyDick, Sep 26 2010 10:56 PM
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#1
Posted 26 September 2010 - 10:56 PM
I'm using that ancient browser Netscape Navigator 9.0.x
There is one site that I go to that is an IMAP mail site.
When I click the bookmark for this particular site, the correct user ID and password are automatically entered for a second and then a new set of characters is entered that has every character repeated, for example, dick becomes ddiicckk and so on until both the ID and password are entered this way.
I have used Revo uninstaller (paid version) and made sure all folders with anything to do with NS are removed. I've cleared out all internet temporary and system temporary files.
I've run Malwarebytes and scanned with my AV software. I've used jv16 Power Tools to clean the registry of anything Netscape. So I'm reasonably convinced that NS is totally out of the picture.
I've rebooted the computer and reinstalled NS and tried to go to the problem site with no bookmarks or cookies or passwords saved as of the first start of NS.
As soon as I type in the URL, up pops the cotton pickin double letter ID and password thing.
So my question is; Where might I find another place in Win7 or leftover NS files that are buried somewhere that uninstallers aren't finding that might have that info stored.
BTW, I also went into Firefox and cleared all references to the site out there, assuming that NS might look there for some info based on the idea that they are both Mozilla based apps.
I can use FF to get to the site and it and IE8 both do not have the problem.
Obviously, I can always use FF to do the job, but there's a few things about NS that I prefer over FF and as long as it will work, I'm going to keep it.
Any ideas on where to look for that password info?
There is one site that I go to that is an IMAP mail site.
When I click the bookmark for this particular site, the correct user ID and password are automatically entered for a second and then a new set of characters is entered that has every character repeated, for example, dick becomes ddiicckk and so on until both the ID and password are entered this way.
I have used Revo uninstaller (paid version) and made sure all folders with anything to do with NS are removed. I've cleared out all internet temporary and system temporary files.
I've run Malwarebytes and scanned with my AV software. I've used jv16 Power Tools to clean the registry of anything Netscape. So I'm reasonably convinced that NS is totally out of the picture.
I've rebooted the computer and reinstalled NS and tried to go to the problem site with no bookmarks or cookies or passwords saved as of the first start of NS.
As soon as I type in the URL, up pops the cotton pickin double letter ID and password thing.
So my question is; Where might I find another place in Win7 or leftover NS files that are buried somewhere that uninstallers aren't finding that might have that info stored.
BTW, I also went into Firefox and cleared all references to the site out there, assuming that NS might look there for some info based on the idea that they are both Mozilla based apps.
I can use FF to get to the site and it and IE8 both do not have the problem.
Obviously, I can always use FF to do the job, but there's a few things about NS that I prefer over FF and as long as it will work, I'm going to keep it.
Any ideas on where to look for that password info?
#2 Re: Password problem
Posted 27 September 2010 - 12:01 AM
#3 Re: Password problem
Posted 27 September 2010 - 01:46 AM
Broni;
How can there be any cookies for NS to see when after a complete reinstall there are no cookies for the problem site in the NS Cookie folder? In fact, I checked before I went there after the reinstall and there were no cookies at all showing.
There are no cookies for the site in IE, because I've never used it to go there. The cookie in FF is OK.
So, do you have any idea where else the info can be hidden?
Dick
How can there be any cookies for NS to see when after a complete reinstall there are no cookies for the problem site in the NS Cookie folder? In fact, I checked before I went there after the reinstall and there were no cookies at all showing.
There are no cookies for the site in IE, because I've never used it to go there. The cookie in FF is OK.
So, do you have any idea where else the info can be hidden?
Dick
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#5 Re: Password problem
Posted 27 September 2010 - 02:25 AM
Yes, I read your reply and there is no cookie for the site in the Win7 cookies folder referenced in the link nor is there any cookie for the site in the Low folder referenced. UAC is turned off and the link talks about IE7 and IE8 is on my computer, not IE7.
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#7 Re: Password problem
Posted 27 September 2010 - 02:38 AM
Broni;
I got it to work correctly by using a workaround. I changed the rendering engine to IE from Mozilla and set the site to always open in the IE engine. Since no password or User ID had ever been entered that way, it opened with blanks in those areas. When I entered the correct ones, I was asked if I wanted IE to remember the data and I said Yes.
So now it opens correctly.
But I still am curious where the double letter items are stored so that I could remove that bad entry.
Thanks for trying to help.
Dick
I got it to work correctly by using a workaround. I changed the rendering engine to IE from Mozilla and set the site to always open in the IE engine. Since no password or User ID had ever been entered that way, it opened with blanks in those areas. When I entered the correct ones, I was asked if I wanted IE to remember the data and I said Yes.
So now it opens correctly.
But I still am curious where the double letter items are stored so that I could remove that bad entry.
Thanks for trying to help.
Dick
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#9 Re: Password problem
Posted 27 September 2010 - 02:44 AM
Yes it ia an IMAP mail box.
However, if it got hacked wouldn't it show in every computer I use to access the mail?
I have no problems with the computer I use at work. The computer I'm using to correspond back and forth with you right now is my desktop and it works correctly too. Also if I use FF in either the problem computer or this one I'm using right now, the logon works correctly.
Dick
However, if it got hacked wouldn't it show in every computer I use to access the mail?
I have no problems with the computer I use at work. The computer I'm using to correspond back and forth with you right now is my desktop and it works correctly too. Also if I use FF in either the problem computer or this one I'm using right now, the logon works correctly.
Dick
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#11 Re: Password problem
Posted 27 September 2010 - 03:13 AM
I can't believe how I could have been so stupid.
In the NS passwords manager there were 10 old password files from the days when the site woold switch from site1.com to site2.com or whattever site wasn't busy at the moment. They had up to 10 different pages and I'd created a password for everyone of them. I'd seen them every time I looked at the password list and thought nothing of it. I just decided that I'll go ahead and get rid of all those old ones because they don't do the switching anymore and as soon as they were all gone, the site logged in correctly. Yeah, happy camper.
Dick
In the NS passwords manager there were 10 old password files from the days when the site woold switch from site1.com to site2.com or whattever site wasn't busy at the moment. They had up to 10 different pages and I'd created a password for everyone of them. I'd seen them every time I looked at the password list and thought nothing of it. I just decided that I'll go ahead and get rid of all those old ones because they don't do the switching anymore and as soon as they were all gone, the site logged in correctly. Yeah, happy camper.
Dick
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