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#1 Man'n'Black-4xp

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 07:34 PM

Can the paging memory {in windows} beforced beyond 4096mb limit setting at least on my external drives?
I have four full time hard-drive each more than 300 gig I think I can spare it!
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 08:10 PM

Man'n'Black-4xp, this is from Microsoft:

Pagefile

RAM is a limited resource, whereas virtual memory is, for most practical purposes, unlimited. There can be many processes, each one having its own 2 GB of private virtual address space. When the memory that is in use by all the existing processes exceeds the amount of available RAM, the operating system moves pages (4 KB pieces) of one or more virtual address spaces to the hard disk, thus freeing that RAM frame for other uses. In Windows systems, these “paged out” pages are stored in one or more files that are named pagefile.sys in the root of a partition. There can be one such file in each disk partition. The location and size of the page file is configured in Control Panel. To set these values, click System, click Advanced system settings, and then click Settings under Performance.

A frequently asked question is how big should I make the pagefile? There is no single answer to this question because it depends how much RAM is installed and how much virtual memory that workload requires. If there is no other information available, the typical recommendation of 1.5 times the amount of RAM that is in the computer. On server systems, a common objective is to have enough RAM so that there is never a shortage and so that the pagefile is essentially not used. On these systems, having a very large pagefile may serve no useful purpose. On the other hand, disk space is usually plentiful, so having a large pagefile (for example, 1.5 times the installed RAM) does not cause a problem and eliminates the concern about how large to make it.

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Posted 03 December 2010 - 08:28 PM

Thanks.

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The location and size of the page file is configured in Control Panel. To set these values, click System, click Advanced system settings, and then click Settings under Performance.
I know this route well, but my machine always tops out at 4096mb I'll follow that lead so where it goes. :man_stuck_in_computer_monitor_s
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 08:29 PM

This pix fits me to a tee. :man_stuck_in_computer_monitor_s

What is the link on my name mean?
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Posted 03 December 2010 - 11:26 PM

Link to your name?? I don't have a clue. I just highlighted, copied, and pasted. Don't know how I got a link.

I changed mine just to see if I could. Had 6000mb and changed to 10000, and it worked by following those instructions.

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 01:19 AM

Two things, one is that 4GB is the single-file size limit on FAT32-formatted HDDs, many External HDDs came that way. Another is that WinVista and Win7 have the ReadyBoost feature that can use a memory stick/camera card or a USB Thumb/Flash drive to increase available RAM, usually a bit faster than increasing the Paging File/Virtual Memory. An issue to watch for with External HDDs is they usually need to remain plugged in so Windows finds the file at startup. I've always found the noticeable speed improvement came from putting the file on a second Internal HDD before anything else and making the Max and Min sizes the same, file doesn't get fragmented.

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 03:01 AM

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I changed mine just to see if I could. Had 6000mb and changed to 10000, and it worked by following those instructions.
Iam aware of these instructions, what I need to know is how to exceed 4096mb.

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I have mine all formated NTFS, and looking at my files I have only one paging.sys at 4096 {per drive}. reading the link above and your text it sounds like I should that for each program.
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Posted 04 December 2010 - 03:38 AM

The only real way to make your computer performing better is to BUY more RAM.
Page file (virtual memory), since it uses hard drive as RAM substitute is much, much slower.
ReadyBoost is also slow and it makes sense on Vista and 7 only if you have 1GB of RAM, or less. With 2GB, or more, which is what you really need in case of Vista and 7, ReadyBoost makes no difference. It's just one USB port used for nothing.

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 04:20 AM

Thanks. I already have 2 1gig card plus the 256 factory, strange that my system says 1.6 gig!?!?? :merry_christmas_images-38:
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Posted 04 December 2010 - 04:23 AM

So is it true xp sp3 can get 4gigs? Getting new card might just be the thing to do.
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Posted 04 December 2010 - 04:23 AM

  • Go to Piriform's website, and click the big Posted Image button. Next, click Download from Piriform.com (the FileHippo link requires an extra click). Or if you want to use a portable version of Speccy (which doesn't require installation), click the builds page link and download the portable version. You will now be asked where you want to save the file. The best place to put it is the Desktop, as it will be easy to find later.
  • After the file finishes downloading, you are ready to run Speccy. If you downloaded the installer, simply double-click on it and follow the prompts until installation is complete. If you downloaded the portable version, you will need to unzip it before use. Right-click the ZIP file and click Extract all. Click Next. Open up the extracted folder and double-click on Speccy.
  • Once inside Speccy, it will look similar to this (with your computer's specifications, of course):

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    Now, at the top, click File > Publish Snapshot You will see the following prompt:

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    Now, right-click on any empty space in your reply box and click Paste.

    You have just posted your specs!


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Posted 04 December 2010 - 04:25 AM

In XP case, just 1GB of RAM is plenty unless you're running some extreme programs.

How much RAM you can install, depends on your motherboard.

32-bit system will only use up to 4GB of RAM.

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 04:36 AM

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 04:54 AM

memory specs did that work?
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Posted 04 December 2010 - 05:01 AM

Yeah. It worked. You have 3 memory slots filled with 1 slot available from 4 slots. You run Norton Antivirus (probably get razzed from other members for that :D ) But yeah it worked.

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 05:06 AM

Reported:

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RAM1.6GB Single-Channel DDR @ 133MHz (2-3-3-6)

Total memory slots: 4Used memory slots: 3Free memory slots: 1

...so obviously, you can't have 2x1GB + 256MB of RAM, unless you have incorrect RAM installed.






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Posted 04 December 2010 - 05:07 AM

While we are talking about memory, did you notice my C:\ is partitioned? Can that be affecting paging memory?
Would it be possible to mrge them back together? w/o format
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Posted 04 December 2010 - 05:14 AM

With your amount of RAM, you don't have to worry about page file.

I'd open the case and take a look, what and how much of RAM you really have there.

What Dell model is it?

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 05:58 AM

Dell optiplex gx270

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Would it be possible to mrge them back together? w/o format

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Posted 04 December 2010 - 06:08 AM

You should be using dual channel RAM installed in pairs. See here: http://support.dell....n/ug/memory.htm
Open the case and see what you got there.





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