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Posted 08 September 2011 - 06:01 PM

Take away online porn and what do you get?

Ian Kerner, a sexuality counselor and New York Times best-selling author, blogs about sex on Thursdays on The Chart. Read more from him on his website, GoodInBed.
Posted ImageOver the past month, I’ve been conducting a “no-porn” experiment with a group of guys. Not that I’m anti-porn; I’d like to think that I take a nuanced perspective.
As a sexuality counselor and author, I’ve written quite a bit in this column about Internet porn - from how it’s altering the contours of our sex lives in unexpected ways to how women are starting to use porn much in the same ways as men.
But unlike the subjects of some articles about porn that have also recently appeared on CNN.com - Can the Christian crusade against pornography bear fruit? and Is pornography driving men crazy - I emphatically do not buy into the alarmist rhetoric that contends that porn is addictive, porn is a gateway drug, and porn destroys marriages.

Rather, I view Internet porn as just another form of erotic material, one that many (if not most) people use in healthy ways to enjoy their own sexuality.
That said, I grew up in the age before Internet porn - when guys in search of erotic fodder were compelled to use magazines, videos, and even (gasp!) their own imaginations and sexual memories. That’s clearly become ancient history: For the past few years I’ve noticed that nearly 100% of the men I come into professional contact with, regardless of age, now use Internet porn as a tool for self-pleasure.
And that got me wondering what, if anything, has been lost in this shift. Like other aspects of our increasingly sedentary lifestyles, are we increasingly becoming “porn-potatoes?”

What would happen if men stopped using porn for a short period of time (say, three weeks) and were instead compelled to seek out other forms of erotic material in order to self-pleasure?
I decided to find out. As part of an informal “no porn” experiment, I reached out to five men of various backgrounds ages 22 to 67, both married and single, all of whom currently used Internet porn as a self-pleasuring tool, and all of whom felt their usage posed no problem to themselves or their intimate relationships.
As the three-week experiment unfolded, the feedback from the group of guys was intriguing:
All of the men ended up pleasuring themselves less than they would have normally had they had access to Internet porn. While they still had the same urges to self-pleasure, most simply decided it was not worth the effort - and that freed up their time. Said Greg, a single guy in his early 20s who works from home as a freelance Web developer,“ I ended up getting a lot more work done.”

And when they did make time to self-pleasure, four of the five men also had much more difficulty, er, “getting started."
“I would see something sexy, and get turned on, and my first instinct was to flip open my laptop and let my fingers do the walking. Business as usual,” lamented Chris, who is married and in his late 40s. “But without Internet porn, I just couldn’t get it going, and more than once I gave up.”
Added Kenneth, who is single and in his mid-30s, “I actually went out and bought a copy of Penthouse, but I was really self-conscious. The whole experience left me feeling dirtier than actually just going to a porn site. Plus, there wasn’t nearly as much variety. I missed the browsing.”

Fred, a married man in his 30s, was forced to improvise. “I needed to watch something - you know, moving images - but I don’t own a DVD player anymore,” he said. “I ended up reading one of my wife’s romance novels instead, and you know what? It was pretty hot! Now we’re reading them together, and I really like this whole erotica genre.”
That brings me to my next point: In general, when the guys found new ways to self-pleasure, they also discovered something new about themselves. Fred discovered that he had indeed been becoming something of a “porn-potato” and David, a man in his late 20s who is on the verge of moving in with his girlfriend, really enjoyed his strolls down Erotic Memory Lane.

“It had been a while since I thought about my sexual past: ex-girlfriends, hookups, etc.,” he admitted. “I used this experiment to start at the beginning and work my way up to the present. I remembered that I have some really hot nuggets buried in my past, and I also found myself thinking a lot about my current girlfriend and what a great sex life we have together.”
In fact, without easy access to Internet porn and the steady stream of anonymous porn stars, most of the men turned to their own erotic histories and specific sexy memories for stimulation.
Nick, who is married in his 30s with two kids, reported that he became more focused on trying to have sex with his wife, which led to some tension, and, happily, some resolution.

“We had some fights, and I definitely got grouchy, but once I removed the porn I became much more engaged with my wife,” he said. “I realized we were getting sexually complacent and that porn was like a valve. Once I didn’t have the valve to let off some sexual steam, I became much more focused on the bigger situation of our sex life.”
At the end of the experiment, though, all of the guys returned to the Internet. “It’s just easier with Internet porn,” Greg confessed.
“I love sex with my wife,” Chris said, “but when I’m going solo I want the variety.”
Yet most of the men agreed that it made sense to adopt a more “balanced diet” of approaches. Said Nick, who had previously been stuck in a sex rut, “I actually became more sexually interested in my wife than I’ve been in a long time. And I feel more affection towards her overall. We’d been arguing a lot and also not having sex, but throughout this experiment, all of my sexual thoughts included her, and overall, that renewed interest in our sex life together.”

I find this last point especially interesting. Research that includes MRI brain scans of men and women during the process of sexual arousal has shown that orgasm lights up all parts of the brain, including those associated with memory. Orgasm plays a powerful role in the reward centers of the brain, so it makes sense that the more we associate that positive reward with a particular person, or memory of a person, the more we reinforce our overall relationship with that person.
Going forward, I’d like to explore this point further: Can self-pleasuring with a particular person in mind increase our feelings of love and desire toward that person via the reward of orgasm? If so, it could be a helpful solo-exercise for those couples who feel detached and disconnected from each other.

I’m sure at this point some of the anti-porn extremists will say I just proved that porn is bad - that it detracts from the connection that a couple potentially builds together. But I also believe that there’s plenty of room for both fantasy and reality in a healthy sex life and lots of different “happy endings.”
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Posted 11 September 2011 - 03:22 AM

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Posted 11 September 2011 - 04:46 PM

What do you mean a bad post. We are adults here and discuss things as adults. If we would spend a little more time on love and a little less on war it would sure be a better place live

What we suggest to all who come here is if you are offended don't read the topic.................
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Posted 12 September 2011 - 10:36 AM

Thank you John, we here at this site are very informative people. And I am like a reporter, because if good topics are out there I will report it. It helps to keep the people educated to what is out there and going on in the world, do you get that Kakashi789.

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Posted 13 September 2011 - 05:00 AM

Your fine Lewis, I think Johnny :} is right you do not like it skip it...
It is not like you posted any skin pix {dang it! LoL}
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Posted 13 September 2011 - 07:16 PM

Just an opinion.....


The compulsive use of Internet pornography, adult chat rooms, or adult fantasy role-play sites can impact negatively on real-life intimate relationships. While online pornography and cybersex addictions are types of sexual addiction, special challenges on the Internet include its relative anonymity and ease of access. People can spend hours on the net in the privacy of their own home, and engage in fantasies impossible in real life. Compulsively spending hours on the Internet viewing pornography or engaging in other cybersex activities can adversely affect real-life relationships, career, and emotional health.


For most adults, healthy sexuality is an integrated life experience. Sex with partners, with self, or as a part of exploring new relationships is usually a pleasurable act of choice. For sexual addicts however, sexual behavior can be most often defined by words such as driven, compulsive and hidden. Unlike healthy sex that is integrated into relationships, sexual addicts use sex as a means to cope, to handle boredom, anxiety and other powerful feelings or as a way to feel important, wanted or powerful.
For men, shame issues are directly related to sexual performance, and definitions of masculinity. For the male, part of sexual performance has to do with getting and maintaining an erection. This is such a visible aspect of masculinity and is so very obvious that any males who doubt their masculinity struggle with the question of whether their erection is large enough to attract and satisfy women. None of this is mean to imply that the men who watch pornography have these problems. It does imply that many men fear that these things could happen.
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Posted 13 September 2011 - 11:09 PM

Let's give Kaskashi a chance to say why this is a bad post. I would like to know myself why it is. Please give us your opinion Kaskashi......:)

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 03:30 AM

My personal opinion is nowadays everything has a diagnostic condition attached to it rather than stating that the person has a behavior problem they are responsible for . Every time some star gets caught acting up they turn themselves in to a treatment center when what they needed was kick in the butt and to straighten out.
Growing up we had no excuses for some of the poor behavior that is allowed today. My dad would put a foot in our rears and I don't feel I was mis-treated and not understood. I knew exactly what I was doing wrong and he helped clear out the poor behavior/conduct.
If a man or a woman is spending too much time fantasizing and using the net to get satisfied by way of cyber sex then they have relationship problems and would do well to seek counseling, possibly get divorced and or find a more satisfying life with someone else.
I just think there are far too many excuses of poor personal behavior now that are sloughed off as a condition.
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Posted 14 September 2011 - 04:02 AM

Good point John...
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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:40 PM

You are so correct JT, only thing is your not allowed by law to do much discipline to children these days, that's why society has what they have. But don't get me started on this subject...lol

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Posted 14 September 2011 - 06:54 PM

Amen Reverend John!
I to am sick of all the new disorders, and has anyone besides me noticed the explosion of food allergies as well?
Peggy is also correct, now a days all you can do with kids is batt your eyelashes, and nicely say please. Which of course does nothing at all....
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Posted 15 September 2011 - 01:08 AM

Yep, some schools now tell children not to bring peanuts because one child has a allergy. Sorry but that one family has the issue not the whole school. They need to do what they need to do but you don't make the whole school change because of one child's problem.

Enclosed are a few that I have noted and will continue to keep track of.

Morons from Frontier Airlines put off a handicapped young man because they could not figure a seatbelt configuration for him, DUH it is not rocket science and you had volunteers willing to help.http://www2.wjtv.com/news/2011/jun/20/quadriplegic-man-kicked-plane-ar-2002794/

    • A young man is kicked off a United Flight in SF for having baggy pants that exposed his underwear. The rest of the story including a video tape lets us know that he was handling a couple of bags and his pants slipped down, this could happen to anyone. The Captain ordered him off the plane, and the young man could be heard apologizing and saying now that I am sitting down I have adjusted my pants and there is no problem I can think of. plenty of women wearing a lot less as if it is hooter time and nothing happens to them. CAN WE SAY lawsuit that was not needed. Dumb and dumber via pilot and police.
      http://abcnews.go.co...ory?id=13866661

      Older workers are more productive than current generation, more experienced, make less mistakes work harder and are time. (ABC World news article today 6/20/11.

      • Kids were initially fined $500 for operating a lemonade stand outside of the US Open golf tournament. I think the idiot that issued the citation should be fired for being a moron.
        They later backed off after a huge public outcry. That really taught the kids just how screwed
        up government goonies are.http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/2011/06/17/2011-06-17_kids_lemonade_stand_raising_money_for_pediatric_cancer_charity_shut_down_by_insp.html

        • New York Police handcuff a ten year old after she got into a scuffle with another child. Yeah now she will really respect the police (Gestapo tactics). They have also done it to five year olds. What part of stupid is that? In the fifties we made them sit in the corner and than write a few hundred times on the board that they would not act up again. I am surprised that the current educators did not have them gassed and or executed,
          http://www.cbsnews.c...n20049988.shtml



            • Flash mob of young people rob clothing store. I wonder what mom and dad are teaching these young morons. No morals, no ethics, no standards. This is not the only one they did the same thing at a convenience store. Perhaps they all want to be stars for a reality show in Jail. In my day my parents if they found out I did something like that would have me prosecuted after they beat the tar out of me.
            http://thetoiletread...lothing-stores/




                • A crowd gathers outside the Casey Anthony trial courthouse and screams their dismay of her sentence. Not one of these idiots was impaneled as a juror so do not have all the facts of the case but they know more than anyone else. Duh once again
                  we have experts via the talking heads (media) and the public who does not respect what is left of the Justice system.

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              Posted 15 September 2011 - 04:18 AM

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              I am surprised that the current educators did not have them gassed and or executed,
              That is only on the second offense...
              The other day my brat forgot a book {not even atext book but a daily planner like thing} and got two hour detention! Me and Ma were not happy in the least.
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              Posted 17 September 2011 - 12:18 AM

              I guess those teachers that walk on water have never forgot anything.
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